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If You Don’t Have Something Smart to Say…

…then don’t yell “you lie!” in the middle of a presidential address to Congress.

I may have more to say on this in the morning…but that was stupid.

Update at 10:32: No, I think I’ll say it now (strong language follows):

That was f–king unprofessional….and the more I think about it, the madder I get. Who the hell yells in the middle of a Presidential address? On the floor of Congress, no less? This ain’t the 18th-19th century, where that type of behavior may have been acceptable. That ship’s sailed, dude. I’m all for dissent, but all you succeeded in doing is make yourself look the fool.

I’m not going to touch the implications of this for the GOP as a whole. It’s too late at night to write that post, and frankly, I’m too mad to write it coherently. But know that you’ve done a disservice to damn near everyone who can make a coherent argument against the President’s healthcare plan, without resorting to the “death panel”-esque talking points.

You’ve probably earned censure, at a minimum. God help me, but I’d agree with Speaker Pelosi if she chose that route. And, yeah, you should apologize. 

You aren’t a hero. I’m going to stop short of calling you a villian.

But that wasn’t helpful. At all.



Update: edited language, for a variety of reasons.


Written by Coby Dillard

September 9, 2009 at 9:57 pm

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  1. No wonder the Republican leadership didn’t try to reign in the Teabirthers bad behavior at Town Halls. They were secretly giving lessons and cheering the on.


    September 9, 2009 at 10:44 pm

  2. […] A conservative blogger from Virginia, who speaks like I do, agrees with me: That was fucking unprofessional….and the more I think […]

  3. The debate whether we deserve decent healthcare may be ongoing. But we -do- deserve competent government. That outburst is not anywhere near competent government.

    Grizzly Smith

    September 9, 2009 at 11:33 pm

  4. Bull shit… Obama stood in the well of the chamber and called the citizens and the Rs liars all night… time he and they got some of their own back. I’d rather like to see the well of the senate devolve into the Commons minutes in England every once in a while. Maybe these pompous pricks would get over themselves.


    September 10, 2009 at 12:17 am

  5. it was the high-lite of the speech for me and the low also… the high-light because finally someone with balls calling Obama what he is… if he speaks he lies… but as hard as it is, I still respect the office and that was not the place… but to me… IT WAS PRICELESS… may it embolden the GOP to speak boldly and speak out…


    September 10, 2009 at 1:07 am

  6. The GOP Congressional leadership often boasts of their party discipline. You think this outburst wasn’t planned? It didn’t get the response they had hoped for, so would-be new conservative hero Joe Wilson wound up having to fall on his sword to absolve his party of any involvement in this fiasco. I give him credit for taking one for the team, not that he had much choice.


    September 10, 2009 at 3:17 am

  7. This is who you are defending
    Looking into the background of Rep. Joe Wilson, R-South Carolina, after his heckling of President Obama last night, I came across this:

    Joe also has been a member of the Columbia World Affairs Council, Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Sinclair Lodge 154, Jamil Temple, Woodmen of the World, Sons of Confederate Veterans, ….

    This is an organization that, as the SPLC has detailed assiduously, has been taken over in the past decade by radical neo-Confederates who favor secession and defend slavery as a benign institution. Leading the takeover is a radical racist named Kirk Lyons, who’s been an important legal figure on the far right for some years.* [More below]

    In more recent years, the takeover has led to an outright internal civil war. Andrew Meacham at the St. Petersburg Times detailed the internal rift last year:

    Experts say the divisions within the Sons vary between two extremes. On one side are the traditionalists, members who focus on cleaning up Confederate grave sites and conducting Civil War re-enactments.

    On the other side are the so-called Lunatics, up to 2,000 members who deride traditionalists as “grannies” and belong to camps named after notorious Southern figures such as John Wilkes Booth and Jesse James.

    John Wilkes Booth members have been known to put pennies in urinals, making sure to leave the Lincoln side face-up. Other Lunatic groups have removed the U.S. flag from their halls and banned the Pledge of Allegiance, says Walter Hilderman, who several years ago created an anti-Lunatic group called Save the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

    “The problem is it’s supposed to be a patriotic organization,” says Hilderman, 59. “You are either that or you let guys in who want to secede.”
    I use to feel pity towards republicans now all of you have nothing but my contempt.

    dj chefron

    September 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm

  8. To call his outburst the end of the movement is an absurd and baseless assertion.

    Sometimes we sink to the Dems’ level (they had no problem openly mocking Bush regularly during Presidential addresses), and that is something we should try to avoid.

    Then again, the emperor is nekkid, and people aren’t going to stop seeing that he is sans clothing because he was mean to that nice Mr. Obama.

    It was a mistake. He apologized. The Dems will make some hay for a ‘couple days and that’s it.

    What will kill the movement much more effectively than any breach of the protocol (that Dems engage in with much more ferocity than conservatives) is the Fair Tax. And the birth certificate nonsense.

    Joe Wilson said what we all think. And he called Obama what Obama calls us every freaking day: liars.


    September 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

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